I think closing the shop for 6 months for newcomers is really the only solution that may have some tangible long term effect, sadly. Then see what happens and prolong if needed.
It sucks, but yeah, that would probably the best or most pragmatic solution for now.
People are probably already doing this, but we should also take a look at how other big open source projects are dealing with this shitshow. Maybe someone came up with a decent workaround.
They’re probably throwing money at it, the ones that can afford it. But imo this is not really a sustainable solution. Slop currently scales easily with almost no effort, money on the other hand…
True, this is all just a band-aid until Microsoft can find a way to deal with it. But unfortunately I don’t think we can stuff this genie back into its bottle and Microsoft sure isn’t interested in “burn it all down with fire” solutions in regards to AI. ![]()
If we’re talking about AI and mass surveillance, Discord ain’t a good choice in that context. They say they’re cutting links with Palantir, but they’re still rolling out the UK caused age verification, which saves the photos of your personal IDs on a third party server while they said it wouldn’t be, AT ALL
Teamspeak is seeing a resurgence and it’s a better VoIP platform, with some texting/chat abilities. Plus you can run your own TS server…
Food for thought, I personally can’t stand Discord.
Cheers !
Both of these thoughts were addressed in the latest Godot Tomorrow Stream by Emi. Specifically that moving away from GitHub would be moving away from the community. Though they already use a few other git hosts (he mentioned which ones in the video). I’d think Discord would be the same issue. The dev chat is on RocketChat instead of Discord. But people come to what they’re comfortable with.
While I share the concerns with both GitHub and Discord, that’s where the people are - and it seems like that’s part of the reality that needs to be dealt with.
Personally, I’ve been using GitLab again for a professional Godot project lately (because that’s what they chose), and I’m quite enjoying it over GitHub. There are a lot of little quality of life improvements I enjoy. But I’ve kept all my plugin repos on GitHub because I know it is more likely to outlast GitLab in longevity because Microsoft owns it.
Hello All,
I did see a recommendation on another site about charging a fee for PRs. If the PR is good, the fee is repaid.
Could this be implemented for new contributors until they meet a level of trust?
Regarding the original question of this thread. Could we use and “AI generated code” tag or sub-topic so people on the forum who wish to look and help can, and those that don’t want to help can ignore those questions?
People who post and don’t use the tag or correct sub-topic risk the vitriol of forum members.
Forum members who usually help could also use the identification that the code in a question was AI generated, if they need a break from seeing that code if there has been an influx of bad code questions recently.
I know I’m only new here and haven’t contributed much, so I hope i’m not over stepping my boundaries.
Regards,
AcidicWombat.
Emi answered this question in the Godot Tomorrow #17. There are a number of reasons this would not work. Most contributors are one and done, much like this forum, so doing that wouldn’t help build a level of trust - it would just prevent people from making PRs because they don’t want to pay money for the privilege of giving their time. It’d be like charging people money to volunteer at a food bank. It would also require the team to have money sitting in an account and would cause them headaches that don’t make the situation any better. You can see the full explanation here:
That’s a very interesting idea.
I understand the position against charging a fee for submitting a PR. I would compared it to the shopping carts you put a coin in and if you return it after you have finished shopping you get the coin back.
Perhaps instead of a fee there is an extra step that requires human intervention, something to stop AI agents from being able to automatically push a PR. If they have to manually intervene, they might be less likely to spam the repo.
I’m not sure if that is something that could even be implemented.
Regards,
AcidicWombat.
Yes, and as I explained in the sentence following the one you quoted, it would require the team to set up an account to store the money, and leave it sitting there, and have someone to process the refunds, and they’re about a 12-person team. Those shopping cart machines have an entire infrastructure behind them. Again, they addressed this in the video I linked at length.
It’s a nice idea, but there’s nothing that can’t be automated. Even those human checks are not foolproof. And unless GitHub implements it, there’s only so much you can do to your own repos on GitHub.
Hey! Somebody mentioned little endian in a post!