You won’t. It’ll be peaches and cream as long as you’re in the honeymoon boilerplate zone. Once you step out of that, things will start falling apart rapidly, or you’ll need to abandon the “only talking” approach and take over the code.
But if you’re one of those people who need to touch the hot stove themselves - go for it. I wish you a non-sarcastic good luck.
Please do report back whether you succeed or not. It’d be interesting to hear about the whole experience.
I don’t, unless by “music industry” you mean bedroom producers self-releasing their stuff… and how are “vibe coders” not using AI as a tool?
I’m sure there are some serious producers who lift some melody lines from AI-made songs, but as far as I understand it, “vibe-coding” means coding without personal coding skill involved. To my mind, the equivalent in music would be typing in some words, hitting “generate” and boom, you’re a composer… which, in my view, is absurd.
I do not. I posted a link in another LLM thread on here about a famous producer using Suno, an actress and his own producing to make a “new artist”. And his music had success on the charts. (I just don’t want to dig it up now.) There are also discussions of people using the tools to upload a song they wrote and put a backing band against it. And I’ve seen other articles about people using it as partof their process, as opposed to just using a text prompt.
And you’d say that makes AI “more prevalent in the music industry”? I really don’t see it… I’ll side with lifetime music professionals like Rick Beato on this one
I’ve decided that I’m gonna try to stick with this project a bit longer. I’ve told myself that if I can figure out this FSM and code it by hand in the next month or so, I’ll keep up actively developing it.
Assuming I can pick things up, I’ll try to get a 10ish room game out the door within a year or so.
Here’s to hoping, and thanks for all of the thoughtful and encouraging responses.
No, I say that’s one example. There’s also the LLM songs that have topped the Billboard 100, and no one is stopping them or changing the charting rules.
Most of rock, punk, hardcore is 2 to 4 chords, and even that is debatable as power chords aren’t strictly speaking chords, as they have only two distinct notes. More like a quinte with octave doubled up prime note
That Swede’s output quality could even benefit from LLM usage, branch to an exciting new universe of four chords maybe. Although there’s a risk there of losing the magical “hit” touch he apparently has. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Is that Swedish guy a real guy or just an urban legend?
I feel a bit late to the party here, but from what I’ve seen the only people who’ve had a lot of success making AI-generated games have been people using it to make visual novels. If you use RenPy all the coding is done for you already, so you just need to put in writing and images. So they write no code, generate the art and text, slap it together and release it on Steam. They then AI-generate the store page description and images.
I can no longer link to this as I live in the UK and they were making porn games (Steam’s adult section is blocked here), but I found one such developer who had generated hundreds of visual novels in this way. They had only been publishing games for around a year at this point, and I looked through a random sample of them, they didn’t seem very popular. (sub-10 reviews for most, with a few “breakout successes” with 50+ reviews).
If they’re making a profit, I imagine it’s off-Steam. I’ve heard that some devs like this sell their games via bundles on 3rd-party sites, and packs of random keys on key reseller sites. I don’t know how profitable that is, though I remember Fireborn on YouTube made a video about pre-AI scammers who used this same tactic, so it seems there’s a precedent for it being a viable business.
That being said, I don’t recommend anyone actually do this; this whole business model is pretty shady, and if you go as far as the steam key gambling stuff, it’s either borderline or outright illegal, depending on where you live.
I think part of the issue is that AI lowers the barrier to entry for a lot of stuff, including things that aren’t ethical. In this case, flooding the Steam new releases page with AI-generated porn to make a quick buck.
I know a few people who’d probably benefit from using AI to assist them with their work (myself included), but don’t use it due to the ethical concerns. And since ethics are a priority for us, we also avoid unethical business practices in other ways.
So it makes sense to me that a lot of generative AI businesses are doing stuff that’s considered “shady” or “unethical”.
You have to use it like a tool, which it is. You can’t let it drive. I have zero issue using it for my projects (Claude Code and Codex via Warp). You just have to approach it the right way, and not let it get away from you.. also use version control, etc. You need to build plans, review them, execute, review, playtest, etc. Standard stuff. If you find yourself praying, you’ve left the using it as a tool space.